I aware of all this. We in NZ only pay these researchers around $400 – $800 an hour so we are not yet in the millions. So the best they can do in their field is go to Europe and then America.

The whole aspect of socialism has got out of hand. And there will always be those whose who ecomically steer our future.

The sad part is that scientist put decades of their lives into studies that some rich company expliots. And the poor scientist are left shaking their heads for they never meant for it to all turn into cash cows.

Kevin,

I agree with you.

And just to add. Every year we have these reports from Universities about a new disorder. How many disorders do we have? Probably 1000’s.

Everything you do that doesn’t fit to a so – called normal line is a disorder. You sleep too little, it’s a disorder. If you sleep too much, it’s a disorder. If you have ups, it’s a disorder. ZIf you have downs, its a disorder. If you eat too little, it’s a disorder while eating too much is also a disorder.

We all have probably 100 disorders. I don’t know how

psychologists/psychiatrists can keep up with them all.

Resarch in this field is a huge business. Like you said they come up with a new so called bit of reseach every week. What they say though is that it COULD benefit people in 5 years or so. Then its trashed and forgotton about. To date they have no idea of what they are even treating. A psychologist can’t even rehabilitate someone. Just study his invented disorder.

Millions Lost In Fruadulent Psychiatric Research
http://www.justicefreedom.org/Page44.htm

Among the National Institute of Mental Health projects, Cowdry was asked to explain were:

* A study of the brain circuits which control mounting and receptive sexual behavior of the unisex whiptail lizard. In nine years, this project cost $1.4 million.

* A five-year study of red-winged blackbirds to determine how humans make choices of mates, dwelling, reproductive areas, escape routes and foraging areas. Cost: more than $539,000.

* A five-year study of the hormonal mechanisms in the brains of rats which make them want to eat salt. Cost: $5 million.

* A study of tree frogs’ communications to their mates to determine the development and maintenance of speech communication in humans. Cost: over $91,000.

* A 12-year study in which the jaw muscles of pigeons and rats were monitored electronically to determine which brain mechanisms could be linked to eating disorders in humans. Cost: over $545,000.

And many, many more.

You are 100% right. And that is our reality. Everything you say is everything I do. And things just keep improving. Many teenagers go through bad times (as well as good) and we as parents just have to ride them through and sway them to make good decision. This will all be a past (history) one day and considered a time of learning.

It is still important to make sure there are no convictions or false information sitting somewhere about him.

Kevin,

Many organizations over decades have tried to curb their corrupt behaviour but couldn’t stand up to the pressure it brings. We are the only ones that can do that job. They want change unless they are forced to.

Exactly. It has to be done. I understand and am pleased I got the chance to find out about it.

So even though I am not a scientologist I am supportive of what they are doing to fight these corporations. And if Tom Cruise or the like are giving heaps of money for it, I will pay to see their movies.

Thanks Julie. It would of been better if they [psychiatrists etc] could put their own ethics in as we already have enough to do without bringing them back under the law. Many organizations over decades have tried to curb their corrupt behaviour but couldn’t stand up to the pressure it brings. We are the only ones that can do that job. They want change unless they are forced to.

It sounds like your son has a lot of stuff to work through. Counselling is not the only way to do it and probably isn’t as useful for boys as it is for girls. Your son needs to find a way to channel his emotions constructively so that he has enough positive things going on his life to prevent him from putting energy into negative behaviours. The idea is to find things that he is showing some sign of being good at and encouraging them even if they appear not be career friendly, such as music or sport. I would say you and he need to spend some time just working on him. Time invested now will save the possibility of problems later. That was my thinking when I first took full time care of my eldest. They were difficult times, she was only 9 then, but now she is a different person and is grateful. However the older you get, the longer it takes to do the repair job and your son has to want to do things voluntarily. Any personal problem can be solved but it takes time and sacrifice.

Doctors do get a pay off to prescribe certain drugs. And that pay off is money. In a surgery practice you will find that certain medications are given out as if we go through trends.

Awhile back they [medico] were diagnosing people with a chemical imbalance in the brain [no such thing] and putting them on prozac.
Some are still recommending electric shock treatment.

See flyers below

PSYCHIATRY,
BETRAYING AND
DRUGGING CHILDREN
FOR PROFIT

The Hoax of “Chemical Imbalance”
http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/chemical-imbalance.html

Through massive promotion and
marketing campaigns, psychiatric drugs
are increasingly prescribed as the panacea
for life’s inevitable crises and challenges.
Psychiatry’s most recent campaign is the
much touted theory of the “chemical
imbalance” in the brain, or
“neurobiological disorder.”
Psychiatrist David Kaiser is unequivocal
about the lie of neurobiological disorder.
In 1996, he stated:
… modern psychiatry has yet to
convincingly prove the
genetic/biological cause of
any single mental illness…

Patients [have] been diagnosed with
“chemical imbalances” despite the fact that
no test exists to support such a claim, and …
there is no real conception of what a correct
chemical balance would look like.
When this pitch is successfully used to
secure the cooperation of unwitting
parents it establishes a dangerous
precedent.

ELECTRIC SHOCK TREATMENT
PAIN AND FRAUD IN THE
NAME OF THERAPY

http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/electric-shock-treament.html

Dr. Michael Chavin

I have a friend/work associate whose son was put on the anti-convulsive drug Tegretol when only 9 months old. He was only taken off this drug he was 12 years old. He then proceeded to exhibit symptoms that were diagnosed as mental illness & prescribed a long list of different psychiatric drugs. He is now 24 years old & a complete “case” in that he is totally dependent on his now aging parents & bounces from “street” drugs to “legal” drugs. The government now controls his affairs & medication. I see this as a scary example of just what happens when children/babies are drugged for so long.

It is useful, however, I think that it has gone too far

It is useful as you can’t drug the person without a label and get paid. Thats the main use of it.

I would say you have never experienced being with someone who is seriously off the rails, in which case sedatives are a blessing.

That would be a wild guess and wrong. There are many ways to restrain a person when he does go berserk. You could sedate him for a short period until he calms down. Then you could handle the factors causing the temporary insanity. If you had something that handled insanty and all its symtoms before it got out of hand you might not have that problem

As the ability and technique to do that is outside the field of Psychiatry, Psychology, and Criminology etc you have to label them so you can drug them.

Like you say, sedatives are a blessing if you have nothing else to offer.
Remeber you are not treating mental illness [invented labels] you are just sedating people. Your not even aware of what causes the person to go berserk, therefore only treating [sedating] the never ending list of symptoms with labels.

Maybe one day you can come and see me and I’ll bring you up to date on why the whole field of Psychiatry, Psychology etc are obsolete and will have nothing to offer in the future.

I will upload the research paper to my site and post the link for you on this thread when I have the time.

Thanks

Your last comment was right on the mark. Exactly what you said is what we are doing. This male psychiatrist and the psychiatriatic nurse are in agreeance.

The most important thing my son has is a stable home and a safe environment and a good mother. We put things in place that were practical and pulled him from the school because he was not safe there.

Because the professionals in this case are in fact long term in their careers they see all the goodness in my son. We together would have done everything in our power to stop him from going to prison. They just love my son and his honesty, good heart and the rest. He is a pleasure to work with although he is full on.

At one stage the school refused to take him if he was not medicated. So we (another specialist with my consent) put him on ritalin. The psychiatrist and nurse took him off as they knew he was not ADHD. In fact they are also against all this medicating.

But they are the top in the field with 20 years experience. They can see through all this crap that Kevein talks about. Many specialists do not.

My son is a lucky one because his mother will not take someone\’s word but questions everything. But I got hurt and burned along my journey of life to get to this stage.

Others will not be so lucky. But then look what happened. I just hope the Mental Health team can see reasoning with this whole \’potential rappist thing\’ as you do.

Kevin and New Zeal,

Do you know what else I see as a related problem?

Ordinary people are wanting answers for their children\’s behaviour or their own. It is as if the people in society have gone mad. They seem to want to put themselves and their children into boxes. This behaviour is just encouraging the use of labeling. Schools can\’t discipline children anymore so they either throw them out or medicate them.

I think all 3 of us are in agreeance of having people find other ways of dealing with thier probems.

On another note.

Doctors do get a pay off to prescribe certain drugs. And that pay off is money. In a surgery practice you will find that certain medications are given out as if we go through trends. It is a huge business and behind the small fish is even bigger corporation tactics to sell their brands of medication. So even though I am not a scientologist I am supportive of what they are doing to fight these corporations. And if Tom Cruise or the like are giving heaps of money for it, I will pay to see their movies.